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Rumor vs Truth
Hangover Remedies
In this episode, hosts Don Weinberger and Steve Small separate fact from fiction about hangover remedies.
Does drinking water actually help prevent symptoms?
Is acetaminophen safe for hangover headaches?
Let’s hammer out the facts!
They’ll share research and insights into some interesting claims including:
- Consuming fluids before, during, or after drinking will curb hangovers.
- Having beer before switching to harder drinks can prevent hangovers.
- Acetaminophen should be avoided after drinking.
- Some natural products can be used for hangovers.
- “Hydration clinics” are a hangover cure.
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TRC Healthcare Editor Hosts:
- Stephen Small, PharmD, BCPS, BCPPS, BCCCP, CNSC
- Don Weinberger, PharmD
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00:00:04 Narrator
Welcome to Rumor vs Truth, your trusted source for facts… where we dissect the evidence behind risky rumors and reveal clinical truths. Today we’ll look at popular hangover remedies to see if there’s any proof behind the claims.
00:00:21 Stephen Small
So this is our second episode of Rumor versus Truth by TRC.
00:00:25 Stephen Small
We're going to dive into the evidence behind some of those clinical conundrums you face to see if they're actually based on evidence or frankly, just hearsay.
00:00:32 Don Weinberger
You know, you probably heard of pharmacist letter and prescriber insight products, and now we're adding this podcast series to help pharmacists, technicians and prescribers.
00:00:41 Don Weinberger
And even patients navigate some of the claims they might see about medication therapy as pharmacist, we are trained to help clear up some of the rumors and identify the truth.
00:00:50 Stephen Small
I like that.
00:00:51 Stephen Small
And I'm Steve, the pharmacist. I've been in hospital practice since 2015, mostly in Pediatrics and obstetrics.
00:00:58 Stephen Small
I've been an editor here at TRC since 2024.
00:01:02 Don Weinberger
And I am Don the pharmacist. I've been an editor here at TRC since 2015, and I've been an outpatient inpatient pharmacy practice since.
00:01:10 Don Weinberger
I'm a date myself, 2000.
00:01:12 Don Weinberger
Steve, when you were probably just two years old.
00:01:14 Stephen Small
So I will not confirm or deny that.
00:01:18 Stephen Small
In this episode, we're going to be making a well deserved toast to the rumors and truths behind hangover remedies, especially after wrapping up the Super Bowl party season.
00:01:27 Don Weinberger
Don yes. And while we also drink responsibly, it's also important healthcare providers. Think responsibly.
00:01:36 Don Weinberger
About how to prevent and treat this issue.
00:01:38 Stephen Small
And with that done, our first spirited claim is hangovers can be prevented by drinking a lot of water.
00:01:46 Stephen Small
Now I try to look into this to see if there's any data behind this.
00:01:49 Stephen Small
There's one small systematic review that only had three studies and two of them.
00:01:54 Stephen Small
Were just surveys of college students and not the best data.
00:01:57 Stephen Small
And from that, they didn't gather that it makes a huge difference drinking water before, during or after drinking alcohol doesn't really have an effect on hangover severity.
00:02:08 Stephen Small
And actually when looking into kind of expert opinions on this, it seems like the dehydration people have a hangover is different from the hangover itself.
00:02:16 Stephen Small
It might just be separate Co occurring issues, so whether consuming fluids before.
00:02:23 Stephen Small
During or after drinking can curb hangovers, the verdict is.
00:02:30 Stephen Small
Of the rumor.
00:02:31 Stephen Small
I would say frankly we got we got any.
00:02:33 Stephen Small
Data for this.
00:02:34 Stephen Small
So folks, get your research hats on because yes, again, proper hydration might help with things like a dry mouth from a hangover, but it's not going to help that hangover itself.
00:02:47 Don Weinberger
Did you say research pants?
00:02:48 Don Weinberger
I hear that correctly.
00:02:50 Stephen Small
Yeah, why not. OK or research.
00:02:52 Don Weinberger
Yeah, I'm gonna still go.
00:02:54 Don Weinberger
Yeah. OK. And let's put on some more research pants here and move on to our next.
00:02:58 Don Weinberger
And we've gotten some curious questions about whether sayings like beer before liquor, never sicker, are true in preventing hangover symptoms. That means.
00:03:09 Don Weinberger
Just drinking beer before switching to harder alcohols like whiskey and vodka.
00:03:14 Don Weinberger
Uh can prevent hangovers.
00:03:17 Don Weinberger
Now.
00:03:17 Don Weinberger
Just note this symptoms are you result of quantity of alcohol and regardless of.
00:03:23 Don Weinberger
So small studies have shown that near the type nor the order of consumed alcoholic beverages, significantly affected hangover intensity.
00:03:33 Don Weinberger
And interestingly enough, the analysis did show the perceived drunkenness and vomiting to be the strongest indicators for the hangover intensity.
00:03:44 Don Weinberger
So for the claim of having beer before switching to harder drinks can prevent hangovers, the verdict is.
00:03:53 Don Weinberger
Just a rumor at this time.
00:03:55 Stephen Small
Yeah, that sounds about right, Don.
00:03:57 Stephen Small
And then another common question I get for folks who have hangovers is, should they be taking acetaminophen for that headache, right?
00:04:04 Stephen Small
We know that acetaminophen may have liver risks and we know alcohol is liver risk, So what should they do?
00:04:10 Stephen Small
In general, we're able to find is acetaminophen can be used at normal OTC dosing. Up to that 3G per day for hangovers. If it's just occasional drinking once in a blue moon, kind of a deal, but we do need to. We do need to be more PR.
00:04:25 Stephen Small
In terms of limiting for chronic heavy drinkers, right, because their liver might have more background issues going on.
00:04:34 Stephen Small
So if someone's taking more than three or.
00:04:36 Stephen Small
Drinks.
00:04:36 Stephen Small
Day we should be using acetaminophen sparingly at the lowest dose.
00:04:40 Stephen Small
And some experts even say we shouldn't be going over that 2G per day dose.
00:04:45 Stephen Small
And if you actually look at some of the labeling for OTC meds for hangover, that includes cinamophil. They also say you shouldn't be taking it more than two days, which is another good thing. We could probably tell our patients if they're needing this for a hangover. So for.
00:04:59 Stephen Small
Out there, who claim that acetaminophen should be avoided after drinking.
00:05:04 Stephen Small
Our verdict is.
00:05:08 Stephen Small
It's true, but with conditions, right?
00:05:11 Stephen Small
This depends on the dose and the patients alcohol use pattern. So a lot to take into account there.
00:05:17 Don Weinberger
Great. There's some good stuff there, Steve.
00:05:20 Don Weinberger
Moving on, you know, I was at the grocery store the other day and I saw these.
00:05:24 Don Weinberger
Hangover cure?
00:05:28 Don Weinberger
Products on the counter and even the gas.
00:05:32 Don Weinberger
I saw some as well and it kinda brings up the question you know, are there any natural products with good evidence for hangover treatment or prevention and you know, from the looks of it, many have been studied.
00:05:45 Don Weinberger
But none of those are really robust. Once I did look at 82 hangover products on Amazon.
00:05:51 Don Weinberger
And about 60% had one or more vitamin doses above the recommended daily limits.
00:05:57 Don Weinberger
You look at the fat soluble vitamins like AD and K that can be an issue.
00:06:02 Don Weinberger
And also none of them have safety or efficacy data in humans.
00:06:07 Don Weinberger
And about 65% of them made these explicit claims that they treat or prevent hangover and that kind of rustled the fdaa little bit, and they sent the warning letters out to these companies for advertising unsupported claims.
00:06:21 Don Weinberger
Supplements.
00:06:23 Don Weinberger
That actually prevent or treat hangovers. So the claim that some natural products can be used for hangover treatment prevention. The verdict is.
00:06:35 Don Weinberger
Just a rumor.
00:06:36 Don Weinberger
Many have been studied, but none of.
00:06:37 Don Weinberger
Are really robust.
00:06:39 Stephen Small
Yep, that makes.
00:06:41 Stephen Small
Don't. That's good to know about the FDA stance on that. And OK, last call here. It's a high tech hangover remedy that going to an IV hydration clinic can actually help with hangover symptoms.
00:06:52 Stephen Small
John I.
00:06:53 Stephen Small
You were actually recently in Vegas, did you?
00:06:56 Stephen Small
Clinics around. I heard they even have like bus versions of these now that you can kind of hitch a ride on.
00:07:02 Don Weinberger
Yeah, I.
00:07:02 Don Weinberger
Actually saw quite a few of.
00:07:04 Don Weinberger
And you know, I believe actually you can use some of your casino reward points there.
00:07:10 Don Weinberger
To fund them.
00:07:12 Stephen Small
And the next rumor versus.
00:07:13 Stephen Small
We should look at folks, is how much did Don actually win in Vegas?
00:07:17 Stephen Small
But that'll be the next episode there.
00:07:20 Stephen Small
But with that, I think it's important to think about those hydration points we already talked about that drinking fluids probably doesn't help. So getting at IV.
00:07:28 Stephen Small
Either and looking at some studies with this, there were two I found that looked at patients who were acutely drunk in the emergency department and whether getting normal saline or lactic ring or boluses did anything versus placebo.
00:07:40 Stephen Small
And really, they found that it didn't change the amount of time it took for those folks to wake up from their state.
00:07:46 Stephen Small
Their symptom scores or anything like.
00:07:49 Stephen Small
So just from that alone, it seems like giving IV fluids is pretty dubious.
00:07:53 Stephen Small
But I think what's also important to think about is the safety aspects. A lot of these IV hydration clinics and medical spas may not be using the same regulations we use in the hospital to make sure I vs are safe. I've got a gown up from head to.
00:08:06 Stephen Small
And make sure everything's clean when I'm making an IV. And these spas may not be doing that. And in fact the fdai remember.
00:08:13 Stephen Small
Sent out a publication in 2021 about this, stating those risks. They even mentioned a case where a 50 year old woman got a Pseudomonas blood stream infection and got septic shock.
00:08:23 Stephen Small
From an IV vitamin cocktail they got.
00:08:25 Stephen Small
At one of these.
00:08:26 Stephen Small
So based on that, when it comes to whether hydration clinics are hangover cure, the verdict is.
00:08:35
Call.
00:08:37 Stephen Small
Rumer ID hydration really probably should only be useful in patients who are severely dehydrated.
00:08:43 Stephen Small
Really, we should be treating that in a hospital, not a medical spa.
00:08:46 Stephen Small
And also I'm kind of thinking about the IV fluid shortages we're seeing from Hurricane Helene.
00:08:51 Stephen Small
We need to be better stewards of IV fluids and we've got to reserve them for acute and critical needs, which frankly.
00:08:56 Stephen Small
That's not a hangover.
00:08:59 Don Weinberger
Yeah. Thank you for that.
00:09:01 Don Weinberger
Great point about the shortages. You know, it sounds like most of these are rumors or need more data except for the need to limit accepting if patients are drinking heavily or chronically.
00:09:10 Don Weinberger
Otherwise, you could say most of them tanked.
00:09:14 Stephen Small
Good one, Don.
00:09:15 Stephen Small
One sobering truth to all this is that.
00:09:18 Don Weinberger
DJ.
00:09:19 Stephen Small
Should really be ready to ask about patients drinking patterns during counselling if it's appropriate 'cause I think we can help patients identify if maybe their drinking patterns are a health issue and we can also refer to resources if they want help.
00:09:32 Stephen Small
And obviously we ought to remember that moderation, or frankly, just completely avoiding alcohol, is the most effective strategy for preventing those pesky hangovers, bar none. And we also know that lemony alcohol has other benefits, too, like decreasing cancer risks. That's good.
00:09:49 Don Weinberger
About being.
00:09:50 Don Weinberger
Steve, you are a buzzkill.
00:09:53 Stephen Small
Sorry, Don.
00:09:54 Don Weinberger
But seriously. Yeah, but seriously, there's a good point that we all can cheers to.
00:09:58 Don Weinberger
And that's a wrap on this episode of Rumor Versus True.
00:10:00 Stephen Small
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00:10:10 Don Weinberger
And take a look at our show notes or.
00:10:13 Don Weinberger
We're linking directly to some of our great resources like the article on Hangover DS in the February 2025 issue of pharmacist letter technician's letter and prescriber insights, as well as our handy chart reviewing drug interactions with alcohol.
00:10:27 Stephen Small
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00:10:31 Stephen Small
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00:10:34 Stephen Small
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00:10:40 Don Weinberger
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00:10:45 Don Weinberger
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00:10:49 Don Weinberger
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00:10:52 Don Weinberger
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00:10:53 Stephen Small
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00:11:01 Stephen Small
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00:11:02 Stephen Small
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00:11:06 Don Weinberger
You know, we know you've got some great ideas for us to demystify.
00:11:10 Don Weinberger
Join us next time where we'll tackle claims about tetracycline.
00:11:15 Stephen Small
Yep, and thanks for joining us on rumor versus truth. Your trusted source for facts. We will dissect the evidence behind those risky rumors to reveal clinical trials.
00:11:23 Stephen Small
See you next time. See you.
00:11:39 Narrator
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